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September 11 attacks inspired Britain to go to war against Iraq
Argentina Star
Friday 29th January, 2010

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has defended his role in the Iraq invasion at the Chilcott Inquiry in Britain.

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair was on the front foot Friday justifying his reasons for dragging Britain into the controversial Iraq War.

Blair appeared for most of the day at the UK inquiry into the war. He made clear at the outset that the attacks of September 11 2001 in the United States, prompted him to join U.S. efforts to invade Iraq. Until then he said he believed sanctions could work, but just as likely wouldn't.

After September 11, even in the early days following the attacks, he was in deep discussions with the United States about invading Iraq.

"After September 11 what changed, as I say, was our calculation, mine and I think the Americans' as well, was that we couldn't go on like this," he said.

Blair said there were 24 cabinet meetings prior to the Iraq invasion, however he conceded the "options paper," a document drawn up to deal with Iraq was discussed outside cabinet, and not at Downing Street but at Chequers. He also conceded the options paper did not go to all members of cabinet. Clare Short, a minister in the Blair government at the time who resigned over the decision to invade Iraq, was one minister who did not receive the paper. The options paper outlined the impact of sanctions versus UN weapons inspections versus removing Saddam Hussein from power.

"The primary consideration for me was to send an absolutely powerful, clear and unremitting message that, after September 11, if you were a regime engaged in WMD, you had to stop," Blair told the inquiry.

The former British prime minister conceded under questioning the threat of Saddam Hussein, or of Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction, had not been changed by the events of September 11, but that the perception of risk had changed.

"Now, my assessment of risk prior to September 11 was that Saddam was a menace, that he was a threat, he was a monster, but we would have to try and make best," he said.

"If you had asked me prior to September 11, did I have any real belief in his good faith. No, I didn't. Did I really think that a new sanctions framework was going to do the trick? No, I didn't. On the other hand, precisely because the consequence of military action is so great, for me the calculus of risk was, "Look, we are just going to have to do the best we can". After September 11, that changed, and that change, incidentally, I still believe is important for us today because it is the reason today, as I say, I do take such a strong line on Iran or any other nation that tries to develop WMD."

"We cannot afford, in my view look, other people may have different views, but in my view, we cannot afford the possibility that nations, particularly nations that are brutal, rogue states, states that take an attitude that is wholly contrary to our way of life, you cannot afford such states to be allowed to develop or proliferate WMD," the former British prime minister told the inquiry.

Mr. Blair said the regime of the late Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was "appalling" and that "we couldn't risk" such a regime developing weapons of mass destruction.

Tony Blair was prime minister in 2003 when he joined forces with former U.S. President George W. Bush to lead the Iraq invasion.

Both leaders firmly claim they believed the late Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. The weapons were never found and many critics are questioning whether the war was legal.

Mr. Blair told the inquiry that the only commitment he made in talks with Mr. Bush was "a commitment to deal with Saddam."

The former prime minister's decision to send thousands of British troops to Iraq was one of the most controversial of his time in office, provoking accusations he had deceived the public about the justification for war.

An audience seated in a London convention center for the inquiry included family members of soldiers and civilians killed or missing in Iraq.

Mr. Blair arrived at the inquiry early and entered through a rear entrance, dodging protesters in the front of the building.

The former prime minister has appeared at previous inquiries, but Friday's appearance is the first time he has been questioned with the public watching.

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By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-29-10, 09:24 PM

Blair says 9/11 prompted attack on Iraq

Where are the real questions? All that has been 'Presented' soft ballon questions! The questions that show clearly the lies told to the Peoples!??? What has been presented is 1000’S AND LIKELY 100000’S HAVE DIED because lil bush and back door tony thought saddam was a monster! We go to war and kill soo many people because these two leaders are afraid of monsters?! Where are the real questions???

By Pontotoc Bill, 01-29-10, 10:06 PM

` ~galljdaj+;182808:
Where are the real questions? All that has been 'Presented' soft ballon questions! The questions that show clearly the lies told to the Peoples!??? What has been presented is 1000’S AND LIKELY 100000’S HAVE DIED because lil bush and back door tony thought saddam was a monster! We go to war and kill soo many people because these two leaders are afraid of monsters?! Where are the real questions???

[FONT=Garamond]Slamming Persident Bush again, huh?[/FONT] [FONT=Garamond]Here is what Democrats thought of Saddam Hussein before 2001. Want to admit you are wrong, numbnutz?[/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]weapons of mass destruction program." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]allies is the greatest security threat we face." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]times since 1983." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions [/FONT][FONT=Courier New](including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]and our allies." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]others, Dec, 5, 2001. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]destruction and the means of delivering them." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]chemical weapons throughout his country." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Saddam is in power." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]developing weapons of mass destruction." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]authority to use force â�� if necessary â�� to disarm Saddam Hussein [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]security.“[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]of weapons of mass destruction." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002, [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002. [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]trying to develop nuclear weapons." [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][FONT=Courier New]“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]destruction. “[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is [/FONT][FONT=Courier New]real [/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=Courier New][FONT=Garamond]Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003. [/FONT][/FONT]

By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-29-10, 11:31 PM

Looks like the mental midget exploded!

Well looks like our great american hero did 'lie' with his snakes, and they advised him on this post! What a joke of american heroism!

By Pontotoc Bill, 01-30-10, 04:42 PM

` ~galljdaj+;182836:
Well looks like our great american hero did 'lie' with his snakes, and they advised him on this post! What a joke of american heroism!

What is the matter, GirlyBoy? No valid comeback? Just trying to obfuscate, I see. I accept your defeat GlirlyBoy.

By Anonymous, 01-30-10, 12:05 AM

Nows the time you been waiting for lilcomrade. Shoot if you can.

By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-30-10, 12:36 AM

Not at all waiting for the lil midget mental expert!

I don’t care one tiny bit about that coward! I do care about the British Inquiry! Just as my first post indicates! So far back door blair has been given a plarform to spin a tale on. And that could be clever, but I doubt thats whats going on! I say clever if the hearing takes a turn, and starts asking specific questions and referencing specific documents that are known, dated, and lies put out in the Public regarding the facts of the documents! Hard ball questions that if mr. blair lies to, would/will be used in a trial! Under Oath! That’s where I would have started. At the Top and the at the first meetings in the year 2000! That’s when the war on Iraq BEGAN! The platform given to 'backdoor' is a disgrace and the first step in a coverup or as I said a clever ploy! I don’t know which but I don’t like risking the Truth to spinnings. The Time Line is CRITICAL TO THE TRUTH! And that is exactly why I would hold strictly to it! There is a chance backdoor blair is not as guilty as I believe. I have plenty of evidence go through my readings, that he has to provide evidence responses to. Those responses are needed! They will remove the doubt, for both innocnce or guilt, therefore the questions must be asked. So far all that has been done is a show game! Too serious for me to play games with, is my complaint in my first post! That’s what matters to me, not the loud mouth!

By nregistered, 01-30-10, 06:17 AM

Yes why confuse your opinion and misguided beliefs with [B]FACT[/B]!

` ~galljdaj+;182848:
I don’t care one tiny bit about that coward! I do care about the British Inquiry! Just as my first post indicates! So far back door blair has been given a plarform to spin a tale on. And that could be clever, but I doubt thats whats going on! I say clever if the hearing takes a turn, and starts asking specific questions and referencing specific documents that are known, dated, and lies put out in the Public regarding the facts of the documents! Hard ball questions that if mr. blair lies to, would/will be used in a trial! Under Oath! That’s where I would have started. At the Top and the at the first meetings in the year 2000! That’s when the war on Iraq BEGAN! The platform given to 'backdoor' is a disgrace and the first step in a coverup or as I said a clever ploy! I don’t know which but I don’t like risking the Truth to spinnings. The Time Line is CRITICAL TO THE TRUTH! And that is exactly why I would hold strictly to it! There is a chance backdoor blair is not as guilty as I believe. I have plenty of evidence go through my readings, that he has to provide evidence responses to. Those responses are needed! They will remove the doubt, for both innocnce or guilt, therefore the questions must be asked. So far all that has been done is a show game! Too serious for me to play games with, is my complaint in my first post! That’s what matters to me, not the loud mouth!

cURIOUS if your union shop was the union reagan ran out of business because your so butt sore and bitter you don’t even know when your blinded by hatred. The truth is Saddam was an evil piece of scum. Had Iran not gotten involved iraq would be a model for the rest of the God forsaken middle east. The kurdish region is doing very well they even have tourism! The game here is which side do you work for. I think someone has yuou pegged and have often thought you really are a Cuban operative working in some Cuban internet propaganda sweat shop. Thats the real reason why your so tight lipped about your location and why you never registered! Confese and repent.

By Syed Suhail Khalid, 01-30-10, 05:17 AM

Oil,not 9/11 propmted Blaire to attack Iraq,

Bush and Blaire are unwanted sons.They can only be loved by the devils and their cohorts. It would be very fine to get hold of all those documents related to the Iraq war and show to the world how much these two bastards have lied to the world.So a proper inquiry must start and these two sons of devils must be brought to justice and be hanged. And anyway,9/11 is one of the many the greatest sins played by the Jews against the muslims and the Christians.Unfortunately the Christians became the pawns in this sin committed by these Jews because of murder happy criminals like Blaire and Bush.

By citizen, 01-30-10, 05:49 AM

There is my lost friend, ~gallj.

I am observing you friend. You seem to be playing fairly nice today. Perhaps without your realizing it, you are becoming open to the acceptance of Christ into your life. I am happy to see the surfacing of your visions and memories that don’t exist is not present in these postings. I urge you to continue this progress of holding onto reality. If you backstep, friend, I will be here to help and guide you. Just as Jesus sacrificed for us, I will sacrifice my time for you. As always, attack me if necessary. I am ready. I am here. Come ~gallj. Let us prepare together for your acceptance of our savior into your life. Come now.

By Pontotoc Bill, 01-30-10, 04:42 PM

Syed Suhail Khalid;182889:
Bush and Blaire are unwanted sons.They can only be loved by the devils and their cohorts. It would be very fine to get hold of all those documents related to the Iraq war and show to the world how much these two bastards have lied to the world.So a proper inquiry must start and these two sons of devils must be brought to justice and be hanged. And anyway,9/11 is one of the many the greatest sins played by the Jews against the muslims and the Christians.Unfortunately the Christians became the pawns in this sin committed by these Jews because of murder happy criminals like Blaire and Bush.

There you go again, spreading the lies of Islam and the boy-loving mullahs. You and GirlyBoy cannot prove war crimes as much as you wish to. You would do well to burn your quran and start getting a real education.

By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-30-10, 09:29 AM

republican strategy playing shutdown government again!

The messianics are out trying to take the heat of the truth and stuff it in a locked box! One want to post nonsense! to take the heat off backdoor blair! One wants to talk commie talk! to take the heat off backdoor blair! One stooge wants to use jesus to help take the heat off backdoor blair! And not a single one of the republican cowards asks why I call the War Criminal BACKDOOR blair! They know exactly why! Blair and his crimes, deaths, destruction, the huge numbers of Peoples lives that have forever ruined with losses of arms legs eyes backs loved ones! ALL WOTH IT ACCORDING TO THEIR PATHIC ATTEMPTS TO TAKE THE HEAT OFF backdoor blair, thereby protecting their messianic lil bush gang! A sorry lot of lil wanabe republican goons!

By Fatma, 01-30-10, 02:59 PM

If this is the best we can do for leaders of two big nations, America and Britian, than it proves any monkey can run the countries. We dont pick leaders that are wise, intellectual, analytical, or know much about history; we pick idiots that win because they are rich and greedy and power hungry. This isnt about playing fair, this is about taking what you can get of the worlds resources. This isnt about human life and suffering, its about killing until you get what you want. Millions are displaced, dead, starving, disfigured from uranium depleted bombs, thirsty for a glass of untainted water, scared for lack of security. None of this is important, did we get the oil? Yes we did thank you very much. Will we keep the oil? yes we will thank you very much. Will thousands now die in Afganistan? yes they will thank you. Will we get an oil pipeline that we need to run through Afhganistan? Eventually yes we will, thank you very much. Will people be left just like the people of Iraq? Already is, thank you. Who’s next is the only question left. How about Iran, now they have what we need too, lets go get it, blow them up and kill all their people. Then the West will be the greatest empire on the earth, like Rome once was. Knowing that, we also know that history always repeats it self, and that great empires always fall. So have fun while you can West, cause you are going to fall hard and fast and you have no friends, no one will help you. No one likes you much any way and most will take pleasure when you fall to the dogs, just as you have done to the rest of the world.

By nregistered, 01-30-10, 03:34 PM

Better to ask why you think Iraq would be better with Saddam in power.

` ~galljdaj+;182938:
The messianics are out trying to take the heat of the truth and stuff it in a locked box! One want to post nonsense! to take the heat off backdoor blair! One wants to talk commie talk! to take the heat off backdoor blair! One stooge wants to use jesus to help take the heat off backdoor blair! And not a single one of the republican cowards asks why I call the War Criminal BACKDOOR blair! They know exactly why! Blair and his crimes, deaths, destruction, the huge numbers of Peoples lives that have forever ruined with losses of arms legs eyes backs loved ones! ALL WOTH IT ACCORDING TO THEIR PATHIC ATTEMPTS TO TAKE THE HEAT OFF backdoor blair, thereby protecting their messianic lil bush gang! A sorry lot of lil wanabe republican goons!

Do you think the Iraqi people loved Saddam? Come on you support totaliterean style evil why not fess up so we can understand your psychosis.

By citizen, 01-30-10, 03:27 PM

There goes ~gallj again!

Dear friend, I have found you. Are you up to causing discord on this article, too? Still you suffer, but I am here now. Attack me with your full force, I am ready. These others do not understand the demons that haunt you, but I do and I am here, friend. Attack me with all your anger, frustration, resentment, hatred, pent-up evils, the works. I can take it my friend. Jesus suffered much for us. I will suffer this for you. Let it all out. Give me more, release all your pain and be free to accept our savior into your heart. I can ignore these others and you can do the same. Come my friend, I am ready.

By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-30-10, 04:17 PM

Sure I will again! But today and this article are about show us!

Show us where in Our laws it says you have the right to murder Iraqis because you 'think' or claim saddam is scum! Your turn to putup coward! AFTER YOU DEFEND THE MURDERING! And then the INDITEMENT will state exactly why its not about Saddam!

By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-30-10, 04:28 PM

lil pharisaicie crier of 'jesus!'

Your hollow cries of jesus jesus, are today’s cries of what angered the real Jesus! But your mouth is open crying... , and your eyes and ears are blind and deaf! Conrad HAD YOU PEGGED VERY WELL!

By citizen, 01-30-10, 06:14 PM

truly my friend, ~gallj

~gallj is tormented relentlessly by visions and memories that donâ��t exist. ~gallj has an extreme need to lash out at all humanity in an attempt to cause grief in others. Let me help my dear friend. If everyone else will ignore ~gallj, the lack of response will become unbearable and perhaps, then I can offer support and loving guidance. It is not my intention to harm you ~gallj, this is the only way I can see to bring you past your disillusionment. I am here for you dear friend. Jesus will change you for the better if you will only release these hostilities. I am ready. I am here. Come ~gallj.

By gtroc71, 01-30-10, 07:44 PM

OMG Pontotoc Bill???ou seriously think you are the one to be pushing your point when you stoop to calling others GIRLYBOY???? How old are you?? You certainly have no idea as to how to come across as a rational mind..you resort to name calling like a school child!! galljdaj gets my vote purely due to the fact that you think you are still in a schoolyard. Do you really think name calling wins an argument at a political level?? Mind you the the people you are fighting to protect haven’t got far beyond name calling so I guess you are all of the same intellect. God help the world if people like you are in charge.. God help us all

By ElEm, 01-30-10, 07:51 PM

Blairs Treachery

I watched Blair for six hours and he was trying very hard to cover up his crimes against humanity. he said that he would do the same again which angered the the families in the room. Blair did this to please his new ally George w Bush and since his premiership he has made millions in the USA lecturing to American citizens. This act of aggression had nothing to do with WMDs but action against Saddam for his support for the Palestinian cause and of course his oil assets. Iran is the other country which supports the oppressed people in Gazza and its notable that they are now under intense scrutiny. Blair is the peace convener over there so that spells doom for the Iranians. He has already stated that he won’t negotiate with Hamas because he says that it is a terroist organisation. When you have people like Blair as a peacemaker then watch out for treachery in the first degree.

By Pontotoc Bill, 01-30-10, 08:44 PM

gtroc71;183082:
OMG Pontotoc Bill???ou seriously think you are the one to be pushing your point when you stoop to calling others GIRLYBOY???? How old are you?? You certainly have no idea as to how to come across as a rational mind..you resort to name calling like a school child!! galljdaj gets my vote purely due to the fact that you think you are still in a schoolyard. Do you really think name calling wins an argument at a political level?? Mind you the the people you are fighting to protect haven’t got far beyond name calling so I guess you are all of the same intellect. God help the world if people like you are in charge.. God help us all

You must review all of this “person’s” posts to understand where he got his nickname. Mainly it is GirlyBoyJihad for his support for Islamic terrorists. He refuses to accept any facts that do not agree with his fixed socialist, communist mindset. Most times, his responses are rambling non-sensense that most do not understand. I suggest you hold judgement about me and see that you, yourself, are making the same judgement about me that you accuse me of making about GirlyBoyJihad. I suggest that you are not as pure as your try to come across as. As for my age, I am old enough to have adult children. Also, I am a retired fighter gator who does not suffer stupidity from others. Ignorance is correctable through education, stupidity is when someone is proven wrong and they refuse to accept the evidence, therefore remaining is a state of stupidity. Ignorance becomes stupidity when the person rejects facts and evidence so they can hold onto debunked views. That describes GirlyBoyJihad perfectly. And we are NOT voting on anything here, just exchange of facts and evidence to debunk false notions.

By nregistered, 01-30-10, 08:50 PM

Its because of people like you that Saddam was allowed to rule as long as he did

Ignore evil! It will go away! No one cares about your vote you don’t matter because it’s people like Bill that allow you to voice your insipid uneducted obtuse opinion!

By Pontotoc Bill, 01-30-10, 08:51 PM

ElEm;183086:
I watched Blair for six hours and he was trying very hard to cover up his crimes against humanity. he said that he would do the same again which angered the the families in the room. Blair did this to please his new ally George w Bush and since his premiership he has made millions in the USA lecturing to American citizens. This act of aggression had nothing to do with WMDs but action against Saddam for his support for the Palestinian cause and of course his oil assets. Iran is the other country which supports the oppressed people in Gazza and its notable that they are now under intense scrutiny. Blair is the peace convener over there so that spells doom for the Iranians. He has already stated that he won’t negotiate with Hamas because he says that it is a terroist organisation. When you have people like Blair as a peacemaker then watch out for treachery in the first degree.

Quick question: If the war with Saddam Hussein was for his oil assets, then WHY is the price of oil (gasoline, diesel, etc.) higher now than it has ever been? The inability to answer that question will put paid your lie about oil assets. Otherwise, you do not have a grasp of what actual facts and evidence are in the case.

By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-30-10, 09:37 PM

I am stunned! The mental midget expert was serious with that awful post!

Here I thought he was trying to make an ironic joke! Well what truly Ironic, he just keeps out doing his stupidity! I still can’t believe he was actually trying to prove something with that junk! It must have come right out of the messianics bible!

By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-30-10, 09:43 PM

without murdering innocent Poeples these messianics...

you are 'ignoring'! The have virtually no comprehension, since their messianics kick in on one or two words! Like when they see a '!name', mama must have beat the shit out of lil guys, can’t look! wack! can’t listen! wack! Poor lil abused, are now murderous abusers! Not to be allowed to even think! go right into passing gear and run boys!

By Pontotoc Bill, 01-30-10, 10:26 PM

` ~galljdaj+;183105:
Here I thought he was trying to make an ironic joke! Well what truly Ironic, he just keeps out doing his stupidity! I still can’t believe he was actually trying to prove something with that junk! It must have come right out of the messianics bible!

Two more babbling, nonsense posts by GirlyBoyJihad. Typical. So sad, a mind going to waste.

By aaronm_06, 01-31-10, 05:39 AM

Both of you are being ridiculous

Okay, I’ve been watching these forums for a while and only making a comment now and then when I really thought it necessary. I’d just like to say that the two of you (Pontotoc Bill and An. Patriot) are wasting so much of your time and energy in these forums. I’m always stumbling across threads in which I see the two of you (or sometimes 'GirlyBoy' as well) going at each other. Now, I have to say I dont mind the nickname 'GirlyBoy' for that other guy, because he is magnificently stupid, but the two of you are both intelligent people and you used to make good, proper arguements to back up your divergent ideologies. But now all you do is name-call and mud sling, whats the point? You aren’t going to achieve anything by this, you aren’t going to change each other’s minds. The truth of the matter is that you are both irrevocably set in your opinions and nothing anyone says is going to change that. So why are you wasting your time with these ridiculous threads?

By ` ~galljdaj+, 01-31-10, 06:33 PM

Well 1`2:39 poster You also have a standing offer!

I see you consider your magnificently Inteligent, so it would extremely easy to show me and everybody else how easy it is to use truth and facts to discredit honestly someone you say I am! You have a standing offer bring on your magnificence! Just identify yourself and the time & place.

By ElEm, 02-01-10, 10:17 AM

Blair lied in Parliament

Norman Coleman a Republican senator on his watch in Iraq shipped 8.8 million barrels of oil out of Iraq. Where did it go to? Shell and other companies put the price of petrol up and they forget to reduce them when things get back to normal. They are already making huge profits. I said it was for the oil but another significant factor was that Saddam was seen as a threat to Israel. Blair lied to parliament because he was desperate to get on board with his master in Washington George Bush. Please don’t go on nit picking about oil prices. The USA is in command with its puppet government in Iraq hence the control over the oil production and destination. Maybe someone will dispute this.

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